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High but icky vibration

Posted on 2006.07.29 at 04:31
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Wow...I guess I had never met a more well informed jerk before. It's sad actually. He comes in spewing half truths as facts, assuming no one is nearly as enlightened as him, and claims to have it come from god and his heart. Sadly the room is devoid of much beyond very basic understanding that they sit in awe...even the moderators prompt him to continue enlightening the room. Some, including myself, asked questions but those were lost in his sea of imparting knowledge. Sometimes he would answer if it suited him. I had my own set of responses which he had no answer for...except that I just didn't get it.

They declared him a teacher. I explained that a teacher says things from love and seeks the student to grow beyond his teacher and become independant, not speak from ego and hope they continue to follow. I also commented that a teacher uses discussion by listening as well as talking and asking questions back and forth in a respectful manner; never talking down.

He said you can just ask your guide to be changed and it's done. He said there are lower levels of existance where athiests reside. He talked of his soul being violet, working with that resonance. He claimed that the only viewpoint that was valid was god's. He also walked and talked right over any differing views. Such as when I gave the scientific findings of mental disorders where he claimed they were totally the result of a fractured soul being confused by its multilevel existance.

What he said was sometimes true, but when delivered with the ego the message is lost. Unfortunately, that particular chatroom feels he is so much more enlightened and knowledgeable. The one mod didn't understand that what I meant by "what level of development we are at here doesn't matter there" means that such 'levels' are merely label constructs from this realm and ultimately serve no purpose. She went on to say that vibration level of the soul is the level. -_- I don't think they understood my point that teaching others isn't about you, it's about growth and compassion and understanding. But what do I know...I'm just a stupid woman who happens to be a teacher?

I think I'm just in shock from the fact that someone so fake could be taken so seriously. There were a couple of mods that perhaps are weary of him, but just a few. Honestly what I felt was a high vibration, but a dark icky, sticky, mucky, BASE energy from him. My hands had been hot while trying to help someone and then they turned cold. I could almost feel my guide blocking in mirror to my own actions. It was like my soul went into warning mode or annihilate mode or something...heh.


blue_jean_girl at 2006-07-29 20:46 (UTC) (Link)
I've always beleived the ego gets in the way of any message. Humility is not just the act of being humble, but it’s a means to allow yourself to still be open to the possibility that there can be more. In the most basic of logic if you assume you know it all then of course you aren’t going to learn anything else. I tend to get more insight by just recognizing when I am actually lost. It’s the same as stepping back from your painting and just studying it for a while to see where it needs work.

My ego just gets in the way these days… shame…
akiko_kalla at 2006-07-30 00:27 (UTC) (Link)
I think everyone's does from time to time but some people just allow it to control their lives. I've never felt so strong a repulsion to what was being said or the one saying as I did last night.
anthonyjaycee at 2006-07-31 15:52 (UTC) (Link)
I think the guy you described is kind of an example how those groupthinks get started... so many people want "the right answers" that they follow the people who are confident that they're "right" rather than people who humbly see the value in new viewpoints as they come into play. Shallow, presumed confidence versus, deep, more true confidence.

When I do happen to have something more well thought out that someone else happens to, the best imparting of that knowledge seems to come in the occasions where I let them ask questions and seeing where they're coming from at every step of the way. It's basically like, "hey, if you understand something better than I do, no problem... I'm just going to incorporate your approach from now on, then." If I'm "more right," then that can be obvious, because the other person can see that, and end up being "more right" too.

But I think your situation overall with that reminds me of when I was checking out the convert_me community, and eventually just got out of there. It was very valuable to me to have a very deep and long debate about spirituality versus science in there, since that seemed to be one of the biggest "divides" that I've perceived in my mind and have wanted to resolve. But, eventually, it's kind of like, "I can't help anyone who isn't willing to help themselves." But I guess that's what you're saying here... there is that underlying question of, "why do we have people like this in the world still?" But is the real issue more that people who act like that exist in _the_ world, or that they exist in _our_ worlds... and why do we ourselves seem to find the need to seek them out?
akiko_kalla at 2006-08-01 06:13 (UTC) (Link)
I have no need to seek them out. They exists in the world because that is where they are developmentally. The only thing that truly concerns me is why I exist, but that is a lifelong journey.

I don't see it as being right or wrong, but his energy was bad. And so many were blindly following when it was terribly obvious the ego was in control. Sometimes people just want an answer, it doesn't really matter if it's true or fales or if it even resonates with their soul...so long as they can get an answer and absolve themselves of having to look within they believe they are happy.
akiko_kalla at 2006-08-01 06:13 (UTC) (Link)
*they exist...ugh.
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