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Posted on 2006.11.17 at 21:27
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And this might come out wrong given the migraine, but...

Why is it that when ego finally rears its ugly head, people go around and around trying to convince it or help it? It only perpetuates ego by giving it something to feed off of; why not just let it get tired of its own arrogant solitude? Maybe I'm becoming a real bitch, but if someone refuses to listen and is convinced s/he is God's gift and here to save others I have absolutely nothing to say. The person obviously wants to hide behind his/her labels to excuse behaviors and mindsets, so why waste my time when I could be doing something actually productive?

I tire of the act. Does the label, does your ego, control you? Or do you have power over your own thoughts and actions? Isn't it funny how often those who claim the rest of the world doesn't "get it" are the ones who are truly missing the point? There are such terrible things that happen in this world and so much that needs to be healed and helped. Stop bitching, stop hiding, and stop comparing; those are useless things to do with your time. Don't speak to the world through telling them how different you are, simply be who you are and the rest will fall into place.

I have come to the conclusion that nearly all those who claim to be indigos, or other such labels, are using those labels as masks for their own egos. Quite sad but as I stated in an earlier post, "You cannot reason with unwilling stupid. Trying to do so only perpetuates the cycle of ego and stupid." A truly enlightened person does not need to continuously convince others s/he is enlightened.


Kale Night
kalenight at 2006-11-18 20:07 (UTC) (Link)
You're far from a bitch - not that I'd mind if you were. There's a distinction between someone who takes a realistic approach to these things and someone who is unnecessarily malicious. You're right about people who think and act that way. You'd think if they were half as mighty as they claim to be that they would have accomplished something worthwhile, or be out doing something meaningful, as opposed to going on about all the things they "could" be doing and how utterly fantastic they are.

I agree with you in regard to indigos as well. It applies to a much broader spectrum of possibilities (such as people who miraculously determine themselves to be trans-gendered and so forth), but the cause is all the same. People need labels in order to feel like they "fit in". They're too damned insecure to function otherwise. They also need others "like them" to stroke their ego further. Indigos are not 'special', they are not an elite group, they simply serve a different purpose, and like you said, someone who is enlightened does not need to seek outside confirmation that they're the bloody messiah.
blue_jean_girl at 2006-11-19 03:49 (UTC) (Link)
I was actually wondering earlier today if the indigo thing was actually a turning in focus rather than an actual state of being... er, if that's how you put it. But my basic thought process was, what about all of those years that children were to be "seen and not heard", if they really are the ones that live closest to 'the veil' at least by seperation of time. Wouldn't it be a natural assumption that as our generations are starting to give children the credit they deserve, or that we finally realize that we do have the opportunity to 'learn twice' by teaching, that we would start to see a shift in the 'energy'?

Sorry, I know it's not completly on topic, but I wanted to ask if anyone else had thought about that. :/

Hope your head is feeling better! :D
akiko_kalla at 2006-11-19 06:20 (UTC) (Link)
I'm not sure I understand, it may be I'm just being dense, but would you mind explaining again?
blue_jean_girl at 2006-11-19 23:40 (UTC) (Link)
I’ll start with some basics.

First I believe that reality is created by everyone. That our awareness, experiences and what not are actually dependent on other people. The only way to truly have control over your reality (or energy levels) is by isolating yourself as much as possible, then you can pick and chose the energy that you are exposed to, kind of a refinement process. (Or to find others with the same focus in their energy, so that it then becomes a group effort.) But again this is because when you are sharing your energy with other people you gain their focus or lack thereof.

One of my understandings of the ‘indigo children’ is that they have the ability to transfer energy more easily than others. I read something specifically where an indigo can ‘borrow energy’ to complete a task, and then will return it once the task is completed. I have also always believed that children have far more control over energy in the first place, if for no other reason then no one has come in and told them ‘that’s not possible’ it’s these self destructive thought processes that can add to someone’s lack of focus, or just a general lack in understanding, or directing energy.

I still don’t know if I’m explaining this very well, but basically, the more we encourage children and their innocence in ‘believing they can’ they would naturally become able to do these energy transfers, and things of that regard, because they lack the dysfunctional thought process that would tell them they couldn’t. And the older these children get, the more they are able to contribute to ‘our reality’.

Like I said, I don’t know if I’m explaining myself very well. Heh, I’ve been kind of lacking in focus myself these days. :/
akiko_kalla at 2006-11-20 04:47 (UTC) (Link)
Hm, well I've never had difficulties in controlling my own energy when I'm around others, so I don't know. I have picked up things empathically and had to learn to separate myself from that, which doesn't always work, but their energy is there own and cannot effect mine unless I allow it to. I may not be understanding you yet though, hehe.
blue_jean_girl at 2006-11-21 02:46 (UTC) (Link)
I like to be as open as possible, to try and block someone's energy is like putting up the barriers. I would rather live without them, as much as possible. There are times that these barriers as just as bad as letting someone's energy affect you... because in a way you already have.
akiko_kalla at 2006-11-21 04:32 (UTC) (Link)
Empathy isn't about blocking or putting up barriers; it's about identifying what is yours and what is anothers. If someone is really angry there is no way I can block feeling that emotion, however I can identify it as not my own and release it rather than take it on as my own and allow it to affect me.
blue_jean_girl at 2006-11-21 04:52 (UTC) (Link)
I missunderstood what you were asking me. I'm doing better at knowing what is mine and what is other people's (though sometimes just the random emotions from being a woman can still get in the way.)

But there have been times it has been litterally painful to me to feel what other people are going through. I don't want to cut it off, put up barriers, whathave you. And it's not really my resposiblity to have to process what they feel. My only point is I would like to develop a life where I don't have to put so much work in processing other people's problems when they are around me. I have my own, and I would like to be surrounded by people who work to have peace in there life. That are not lead, nor feed into their anger or negativity. I don't want it, I don't want it around me.
akiko_kalla at 2006-11-21 04:59 (UTC) (Link)
Yes, and there is nothing wrong with limiting your experiences with extremes. All I am saying is it is not just a matter of changing who you are around, for if you do that you are very much limiting your life here. If you can recognize that these emotions are not your own, you will begin to not take them as your own. You will feel them, but you will not hold them.

It's just part of being an empath; you feel other's emotions and whatnot as your own. But that doesn't mean you can't learn to tell the difference most of the time. There are some things I simply cannot and will not watch or experience because I know how it will go. Likewise I do not like crowded places or being around people I do not know. However, I'm not going to allow being an empath to limit my life, rather I want and try to use it to help me better understand humanity.

But that's just how I see it, to each his/her own. ^_^
akiko_kalla at 2006-11-19 06:34 (UTC) (Link)
You're very kind, but thank you.

Exactly, if you see how the world should be improved, don't tell me; change it!

I am so very sick of reading posts and information regarding indigo, chrystal, rainbow, etc. that presents and elitiest attitude. I know far too many who claim to be indigo or such who are the most unenlightened people I've ever met. When ego gets a hold of a person it can not only be ugly, it can be downright scary.

I understand the need to fit in. I went through that myself, but once you begin to find answers and make sense of those aspects of your life, you should continue on with your purpose, not use it as an excuse. Shirking your own responsibilities, to me, is akin to the victim mentality that chains human beings into thinking this is all they are.
(Anonymous) at 2006-11-19 23:45 (UTC) (Link)
I've often said that I identify with the "indigo" mindset, but all it means to me really is that I read a website somewhere that had a list of things "indigo adults" are up against, and I said yeah, that's me.

I can tell you that I believe in 'my reality' and I know that I can only influence/ not influence the people that are directly involved in my life. It's how I work. I continuously try to reach out to the people in my life. I have even tried focusing my efforts these last few years. But as of yet, I have been unable to create the bridges I feel that I need to do more.

I guess what I'm asking is, do you think it's 'the ego' that's getting in the way, or your 'expectations'?
blue_jean_girl at 2006-11-19 23:45 (UTC) (Link)
Sorry, that was me, forgot to log in.
akiko_kalla at 2006-11-20 04:53 (UTC) (Link)
My expectation is that people are who they are. Reaching out is not elitism. Elitism, and consequently the ego that I am talking about, separates those who think they are enlightened by looking down at others, claiming the rest of the world does not understand.

It isn't a matter of reality as much as a matter of competition. If you are truly an indigo and enlightened being, at least to me, you are here to help this world ascend. You cannot do so if you are constantly comparing people and talking about how much better you are than others and blame your ego's need for continual reassurance on being an indigo in a non-indigo world. If reality is what you make of it, each individual's different, there is no such thing as an indigo or non-indigo world anyway.
blue_jean_girl at 2006-11-21 04:56 (UTC) (Link)
I see what you're saying. People are taking this 'indigo', 'non indigo' mindset and turning it into 'group think'. Much like one would claim to be a Republican or a Democrat, us against them... kind of goes against what I thought an indigo would truely identify with.
akiko_kalla at 2006-11-21 05:02 (UTC) (Link)
I'm not sure what you mean by group think, but yes it is very opposite of the whole purpose of being an indigo. Which is why it bothers me as so many people are willing to be lead and follow these types of people. It's so ironic and hypocritical, but that is what happens when one allows ego to take over.
blue_jean_girl at 2006-11-22 03:40 (UTC) (Link)
Group think is basically creating a group, and anyone inside the group is better than anyone outside the group, for whatever reason.

I've said 'yeah that's me' to the indigo thing. But like all things in my life, I try to build. I may not always see a way to acomplish what I feel I need to. But I always try. This year I've had to start rebuilding from a place that was far different then places I've been in previously. But still, I kept at it, sometimes internally, sometimes externally... I guess I've always thought that was what the 'changes in energy exchange' were all about. Not creating yet another crutch with which to blame the world for everything that is going wrong with you...

Call me crazy. :s
akiko_kalla at 2006-11-22 04:43 (UTC) (Link)
I'm sorry, maybe it's the migraine, but I'm not sure I understand. Are you agreeing, disagreeing, or adding something else? Sometimes the internet is just not the best way to have a conversation. :P
blue_jean_girl at 2006-11-22 04:47 (UTC) (Link)
Adding :P

Just stating what I _thought_ the 'indigo thing' was supposed to be about, part of the reasons I 'saw myself'. I could have missunderstood too, so it gives room for me to be corrected.

Do you still have the migraine? That's awful.
akiko_kalla at 2006-11-22 04:54 (UTC) (Link)
Well, what I was having earlier was probably part of the aura, and this is now the actual migraine. I would just sleep except it is so distracting I can't sleep.

And I agree, being an indigo, well being a spirit in or out of a body in my opinion, is very much about continuing to grow. Everyone is here for various reasons, it's just indigos are a group of people at least a few shared purposes. And if that makes no sense, just let me know and I will explain when I can think. ^_^
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